So what happens if an Escort takes your money then changes the agreement?

[PapaSmurf]

This recently happened to me. The lady confirmed "All services" for an hour. After I paid, she gave me oral and said she couldn't have sex because she was on her period. When I reminded her about the money I paid (£150 for an hour) she got irritated and said the money I spent was for me to get in the door and meet her. Everything else it at her discretion.

So what are my options at this moment? I'm pretty new to this whole scene, so I'm not in the habit of haggling for sex. Nor do I really want to as it spoils the whole mood. Getting some of my money back would have resulted in me getting in a huge row, which is something I was trying to avoid too as it would also screw up the whole vibe. 

I basically tried to salvage the rest of the meet and convince myself that it didn't matter, but looking back at the whole thing I was clearly taken for a ride, and I'm quite annoyed.

Shitty service too. Spent half the time on her phone texting her BOY FRIEND. Keep in mind GFE was part of the "services" lol.

Didn't want me to use her toilet for some bizarre reason. Something to do with getting the condom wet?! which hadn't even been put on as I just walked into the door. I insisted, because I was bursting.

Unfriendly, sarcastic, very entitled. She was hinting at tips before I even paid her.

She was the stripper, wannabe hip hop video type. Visiting from Canada. She said she's leaving on Sunday, but I'll leave her details just in case anyone has the misfortune of meeting this lady.

http://london.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/1000-real-photos-best-of-the-best/13626152
http://london.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-best-f-r-e-s-h-b-a-b-e-new-in-town-s-e-x-y-g-i-r-l/13704602

[Carol Brown]

Thats a real shame you had a bad experience with her. But was you able to read any feedback from previous clients that had visited her? xx

[Busty Lady]

When I was working it was very much a case of you pay for my time not my services.  I'm not saying its the case here but from the girls point of view there has to be times that you can refuse services, what happens if your clients hygiene is poor for example.  I had lots of clients that adored giving oral because I have a large clit and even though in my reviews this was spoken about and I knew most clients expected to be able to do this, I still refused to let a couple of clients down there because they would bite.  I refused sex with quite a few men that were not clean or had been drinking, wouldn't let somebody with long/jagged or dirty nails put their fingers inside me and so on.  If for any reason the problem was with me (never had the period problem but I know most girls do) then I would have compensated.

I'm sorry you feel taken advantage of and if what she said was true then she really should have compensated you and either offered another booking or gave you some sort of refund however you must bear in mind that none of these women are obliged to have sex with you just because you are paying, most will consider that its their time your paying for. 

[mancman]

whoa thats pretty bad. I mean I've had girls call time 40minutes in to an hour booking before but never point blank refused normal sex...

[PapaSmurf]

Appreciate the feedback. @Busty Lady, I understand the general sentiment about paying for the time and not services. I think that's the loophole that stops escorting from being criminal right? (I'm a bit fuzzy on the legalities)

In fact she actually said "The payment was for me to enter the door and that's it." But she said that AFTER she promised "ALL SERVICES" on the phone and also AFTER she took my money.  As soon as I gave her the cash, everything changed.

So my question is this, if you are promised a service, and after paying she refuses to deliver or give you some kind of refund, what do I do? Start a blazing row in the middle of the Hotel room?

This is more of a "what would you do?" type question. I've already learned my lesson.

It's a shame, because I really try my best to keep the meets as friendly and fun as I can, but now, if I continue doing this, I'm going to have to treat it like a clinical business transaction.

[toby88]

So my question is this, if you are promised a service, and after paying she refuses to deliver or give you some kind of refund, what do I do? Start a blazing row in the middle of the Hotel room?

This is more of a "what would you do?" type question. I've already learned my lesson.

This is more of a "what would you do?" type question. I've already learned my lesson.


Put it down to experience Papasmurf, it’s a learning curve. And yes... of course it bites.

I’ve been along that road myself, and it’s incredibly frustrating, as she’s basically in denial of what her advert says, and (in my opinion) is after easy money.

Yes you could make a scene, but you’re not going to really achieve anything, not unless you have the resources to create damnation. But it’s not really going to achieve anything, as she obviously wasn’t in it for the service she was supposedly offering

She's also advertising on a free classified add site – london backpage dot com

This is the one of the obstacles within this industry. There are girls, who will change the goal posts and rules, the second you have handed over the money.

As I commented Papasmurf, you’re not on your own. And yes; it’s an education and learning curve and it hurts at times.

The other side of the coin, is there are many escorts out there, who are 100 percent on what they do and offer.


On a personal note, I mosty use Adultwork.

[Carol Brown]

Although I don't Escort I have been ripped off lots of times times myself.Hence I no longer offer Skype shows. I guess we have all been ripped off one way or another in this industry.
I agree with Toby Stick to Adultwork at least you can read feedback etc xx

[busty_zoe]

Sad when you read this, as it gives us all a bad name.

Yes on our escort profiles it read "payment is for our time only, anything else blah blah blah"

But we know guys expect the services that are listed on our profiles, unless there's a good reason not to ( hygiene etc )

However, in my opinion, a girl on her period should either prep herself so she can still offer the sevices she offers, or tells you prior to the net that X&Y aren't available ....that way you have a choice to attend or not.

However, I like to think I care about my clients - but sadly not all do.

XX

[PapaSmurf]

I was warned against backpage, but I know a few reliable adult work ladies that use it. And to be honest, I was thinking with my dick. 

Looking back, I should have protested a bit more, but I was so baffled with her attitude, I fell back on my good guy instincts and just tried to do anything to make her happy.

I started visiting escorts to have hassle free fun and I ended up paying for the annoying girlfriend experience. lol 

Thanks again for the feedback. I feel better knowing I'm not the only one that's had to deal with this kind of shit.   

[PapaSmurf]

Sad when you read this, as it gives us all a bad name.

Yes on our escort profiles it read "payment is for our time only, anything else blah blah blah"

But we know guys expect the services that are listed on our profiles, unless there's a good reason not to ( hygiene etc )

However, in my opinion, a girl on her period should either prep herself so she can still offer the sevices she offers, or tells you prior to the net that X&Y aren't available ....that way you have a choice to attend or not.

However, I like to think I care about my clients - but sadly not all do.

XX

After she took my money, She told me stories about in the past, she's warned guys about her being on her period, and they've backed out, so she knew if she told me, I would do the same. She was surprisingly frank about the whole thing. She basically straight up admitted to tricking me.

[Lucy Lastick]

To be fair most who visit us think with their dick but it doesn't mean they have to receive a crappy time with us. I would put it down to experience and if you can leave her feedback which is appropriate (negative) and stick to those who have great feedback.

It wouldn't have killed her to text to let you know she came on her period so you could have decided for yourself whether to still see her or not :/

[Miss Kirsty]

Sorry you have had a bad experience

Yes your payment is for companionship blah blah blah but most gents do expect all services listed to be offered. 

I have refused kissing, sex and fingering due to awful hygiene. Personally when I am on my period I always inform the client on the phone and tbh still most want the booking even thou I am unable to offer sex but I would never not tell a guy before hand.

Sticking with girls from AW with excellent feedback is the safest thing to do in my view.

Don't let it put you off xx

[Curvy Crumpet]

Sad when you read this, as it gives us all a bad name.

Yes on our escort profiles it read "payment is for our time only, anything else blah blah blah"

But we know guys expect the services that are listed on our profiles, unless there's a good reason not to ( hygiene etc )

However, in my opinion, a girl on her period should either prep herself so she can still offer the sevices she offers, or tells you prior to the net that X&Y aren't available ....that way you have a choice to attend or not.

However, I like to think I care about my clients - but sadly not all do.

XX

Unfortunately it is happening more and more these days zoe.

[toby88]

The escort world is changing, in that there are a lot more escorts available.

I’ve been doing this for over 30 years now, and (to me) it does require using a level of common sense and also intelligence to a degree. And yes, it is so easy, to think with your dick. Yes, we have testosterone to thank for that.

There is also a large influx of females from other countries, and although some of them are genuine, some of them are coming over here, with their own ideas, or are in it for (to me) their perception of easy money. I tend to avoid them.

How do I recognize them? The wording of the advert normally gives a lot away. Also, if the girl looks incredible figure wise but won’t show her face, then it’s possible she isn’t the girl you are going to see.

There are many different tricks and variations which are used, and it’s just being able to recognize what is being communicated. Also, I wouldn’t normally visit a lady under 40, but that’s just my personal choice.

Reading the feedback is a real must, as it offers a genuine opinion of the lady. I also note how long she’s been on AW ie the year she joined.

There are many genuine escorts out there, who offer a genuine service.  So rather than trying to see as many as is possible, I seek out about six, and stay with them. That way, they get to know me and visa versa.


This is the escort industry. It’s not like going to the supermarket or dentist or doctors,
You have to use your initiative, and realize that... things can happen.

I used to visit a parlour in East London with mature busty women. (yes… I love big boobs)

When I visited Edinburgh I visited an establishment in a terrace house. It was very discreet, with a few mature busty women.

I also visited a lady in Wolverhampton, who operated from a private house, when I traveled up north via the M6

I also see a lady in Dundee.

I also used to use a parlour in Romford, as she was a very mature (60s) busty woman there.

I use parlours, as it offers privacy and I know within reason, I’m not going to have to concern myself over the service offered.

I’ve also visited two ladies from the forum, and they were exceptional.

So don’t’ allow a negative experience to put you off.  They are many ladies out there, who will offer you an incredible time and an unforgettable experience.

[PapaSmurf]

Thanks for the advice Toby. I agree with alot of your points. I've only been doing this for a month, and I never planned on making this a weekly or even monthly thing.

Just like you, I planned on meeting a handful of ladies and just making them regulars. Visit them from time to time.

I guess I got a bit greedy. The backpage girl isn't even my initial type. I also like older bigger women. But I guess I wanted to tick off my bucket list "Rap video stripper". 

Most of her pics passed the google image search, except for the booty ones, (which turns out to be stolen from a rap video vixen Staci Doll, for what it's worth) The semi bait and switch didn't bother me too much as she still looked good, and my best meet to date was with a lady that B&S me. (I plan on seeing that particular lady again at some point.)

I'm definitely rethinking the whole escorting thing now. However, I've still had some good experience's, so I can't see myself completely ruling it out. 

For the record, I just looked over my texts and she clearly says "£150 for all services".

I promised myself before I embarked on the escort journey, that I would never argue or try and haggle with any lady I meet. I wanted to keep things as friendly as possible, but she clearly took advantage.

It sucks because now I'm taking this baggage with me to the next lady I meet. Suspicion and 101 questions. That being said, I think that only really applies to the backpage ladies which I plan on approaching with more caution or just completely avoiding.

I'm more annoyed at myself for not trusting my instincts than I am at the girl herself.

Thanks for letting me rant guys.

[busty_zoe]

Sad when you read this, as it gives us all a bad name.

Yes on our escort profiles it read "payment is for our time only, anything else blah blah blah"

But we know guys expect the services that are listed on our profiles, unless there's a good reason not to ( hygiene etc )

However, in my opinion, a girl on her period should either prep herself so she can still offer the sevices she offers, or tells you prior to the net that X&Y aren't available ....that way you have a choice to attend or not.

However, I like to think I care about my clients - but sadly not all do.

XX

Unfortunately it is happening more and more these days zoe.

It certainly is. XX

[BreastObsessed]

This recently happened to me. The lady confirmed "All services" for an hour. After I paid, she gave me oral and said she couldn't have sex because she was on her period. When I reminded her about the money I paid (£150 for an hour) she got irritated and said the money I spent was for me to get in the door and meet her. Everything else it at her discretion.

So what are my options at this moment? I'm pretty new to this whole scene, so I'm not in the habit of haggling for sex. Nor do I really want to as it spoils the whole mood. Getting some of my money back would have resulted in me getting in a huge row, which is something I was trying to avoid too as it would also screw up the whole vibe. 

I basically tried to salvage the rest of the meet and convince myself that it didn't matter, but looking back at the whole thing I was clearly taken for a ride, and I'm quite annoyed.

Shitty service too. Spent half the time on her phone texting her BOY FRIEND. Keep in mind GFE was part of the "services" lol.

Didn't want me to use her toilet for some bizarre reason. Something to do with getting the condom wet?! which hadn't even been put on as I just walked into the door. I insisted, because I was bursting.

Unfriendly, sarcastic, very entitled. She was hinting at tips before I even paid her.

She was the stripper, wannabe hip hop video type. Visiting from Canada. She said she's leaving on Sunday, but I'll leave her details just in case anyone has the misfortune of meeting this lady.

http://london.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/1000-real-photos-best-of-the-best/13626152
http://london.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-best-f-r-e-s-h-b-a-b-e-new-in-town-s-e-x-y-g-i-r-l/13704602

Sadly, you don't have recourse (legal or otherwise).

What you do, is tell her she's a bitch to a face and then slag her off online whilst recommending nobody else visits her.

[BreastObsessed]

But we know guys expect the services that are listed on our profiles, unless there's a good reason not to ( hygiene etc )

Is that an unreasonable expectation? If it is, why?

This is a transaction for sex; not being in the same room with a girl.